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補前言

數月前﹐太公曾在聯網貼文﹐指出加州房地產﹐正要開始猛跌﹔以前﹐我曾貼出一些案例﹐以証明此房價走勢﹔加州有些地區﹐的確已經有的跌七﹑八﹑九十趴﹐但是就有人(S)﹐以小人之心﹐說太公企圖拉生意。

很抱歉﹗要付錢請我當顧問﹖太公很屌﹐得看人交友喔﹗我不爽﹐那門都沒有﹐我還有必要﹐像檳榔妺那樣攬客﹖太看得起我啦﹗我有那麼漂亮﹑英俊乎﹖

今天為何貼出此文﹖最主要目的有

(1)往昔好投資﹐均在洛城都會區外﹐路程在九十分以上﹔而這兩筆則在華人心目好區中﹐有日本豪華自助餐及中國蒙古烤肉﹐想想妻女家人一起過年﹐享受道地中餐﹐伊娘列﹐讓太公不手養也難喔﹗

(2)以前﹐太公言﹕處今日﹐還有必要﹐脫褲子放屁﹐出國當留學生﹖嗯﹐聯網上﹐還是有藍綠雞鴨﹐要太公回國打拼﹐才能對國事放屁﹐否則就伊娘列閉嘴﹖事實上﹐太公現在人在德州﹐對加州市場及租金行情﹐怎能如此清楚﹖這是什麼時代呢﹖

I live in Texas and collect all information through internet. I also found that the condo is in the top 40% good community in the city (grade 2 in 5). What a wonderful world we live in now compared to our ancestor! Even Richard Nixon has to envy us since there would be no Watergate scandal if he could enjoy the recent technology without 3 stupid guys using illegal wire tape. So, please don't say you can't do any investment in other state.

(3)對﹗就一般人言﹐以長期持有硬体地產投資策略(不考慮『增值』因素)﹐能有二十五趴年回報﹐那是比銀行現在定存﹐高出八倍﹔可是就軟体地產投資﹐就伊娘的可以獲更高的回報率。那該當何率﹖如果太公說﹐以人頭作為保証﹐至少能有個年回報率一百趴﹔太公聯網友人﹐當然不會如雞鴨歪人一般﹐說太公放『大屁』。但是否也會像魯迅般﹐為孔明的頸上頭操憂﹐如何能辦到呢﹖

大家好好想意境﹐找個好答案﹔那太公呢﹖當然是學『草船借箭』前的孔明﹐喝茶看報紙哪﹔這事﹐咱幹多啦﹐急啥﹖

****** 主文 ******

今年首度見到一般普通華人在加州的好投資之一。

1990年建康斗﹐三房兩浴﹐住房面積1﹐655呎﹔2005年售價為  $407,000﹐今年三月﹐M銀行以三十六萬一千二收回﹐現在您可能以十萬至十二萬美元購得。

依租市行價﹐該屋約月租金三千二(政府HUD最低的Section 8月租為二千美元)﹐若以月淨租為二千計﹐如您以十萬購得﹐則月利2%﹐年利為25%﹔在洛杉磯大都會區﹐一般房租只有0。5%回報率﹐這是約四倍超值的難見投資。    

另外一者﹐昨日仍在﹐而今日可能已經售出﹐就不再提及。

 

 

 

4**1  *****, CA 90*** 

 

Bedrooms:3
Bathrooms:2.0
Sq ft:1,655
Lot size:2,178 sq ft / 0.05 acres2,178 sq ft / 0.05 acres
Year built:19901990
3BR, 2BA, 1655SF
 

Assessor's ID No.****-1-0**-0** 
 Site Address****1 ********
**********CA 9****
Square Footage        1,655 約四十五台坪
  
 Year Built / Effective Year Built1990 / 1990 
 Bedrooms / Bathrooms3 / 2 

Recording Date0*/**/2005 
 Land$248,322 
 Improvements$159,181 

Bank owned. Newer 3 legal townhouse on quiet street just a few blocks east of ******. Good floorplan, master fireplace, bright kitchen w/ oak cabinets, formal dining, sunny private patio. 1 minute to ******, easy access to beaches. See agent remarks.  See listing website 

Rental comparables

SourceAccuracyLowMedianHigh# of ComparablesMore info
RentometerCensus Tract$3,210$3,210$3,21048Comparables Report
HUD FMRStatistical Area  $2,014 Not applicableHUD FMR Information

Investment Summary 一般市場投資回報率預估

This investment summary assumes a 30-year fixed loan, 20% down, 7% APR. It uses operating assumptions of 10% management fees, 9% vacancy allotment, 3% repairs. This investment summary assumes that rents increase each year by 5%. This property would need to be purchased for $400,000 in order to generate a break-even cashflow based on prevaliing market rents.

Annual Property Operating Data

Net Operating Income (NOI)
1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year
Maximum Possible Rent
$38,520
$40,523
$42,630
$44,847
$47,179
Vacancy Allowance
($3,467)
($3,647)
($3,837)
($4,036)
($4,246)
Management Fees
($3,852)
($4,052)
($4,263)
($4,485)
($4,718)
Tax Assessment
($2,460)
($2,460)
($2,460)
($2,460)
($2,460)
Insurance Service
($630)
($630)
($630)
($630)
($630)
Repairs
($1,156)
($1,216)
($1,279)
($1,345)
($1,415)

Net Operating Income
$26,956
$28,518
$30,162
$31,891
$33,710
Cashflow
1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year
Net Operating Income
$26,956
$28,518
$30,162
$31,891
$33,710
Debt Service
($13,412)
($13,412)
($13,412)
($13,412)
($13,412)

Cashflow Before Taxes
$13,543
$15,105
$16,749
$18,478
$20,297

 1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year
Break-even Purchase Price$400,000
Rents$38,520$40,870$43,299$47,461$50,330
Cashflow Before Taxes$-1,388$445$2,340$5,586$7,824
Cash-on-Cash Return-1.73%0.56%2.92%6.98%9.78%

(最後一項﹐是以二十萬購買價為計算指標)

Related Property Transactions

We found 4 related property transactions in the last 3 years.

Transaction DateValueBuyerSellerFull or PartialMultiple APNArms LengthDocument TypeTransaction TypeREO Flag
2005-12-02n/aG***********Y Full NoUnknownRefinanceN
2006-12-14n/aG***********Y Full NoUnknownRefinanceN
2006-12-14n/aG***********Y Full NoUnknownRefinanceN
2008-**-**$361,250M***** TRUST MSHEL 2007-2******* LOAN SERVICE CORPFull NoTrustee's Deed Upon SaleResaleB

Sale History

Aug 03, 1998

販售史歷

Sold

$126,000

192.7%/yr

Public Records

Jun 02, 1998 Sold$105,000 -8.5%/yr Public Records
Jul 07, 1995 Sold$136,000 39.1%/yr Public Records
Dec 09, 1994 Sold$112,500 -30.4%/yr Public Records
Jun 01, 1994 Sold$135,976 -- Public Records

Related Listing History

MLS NameMLS IDFirst AppearedListing PriceLast VisibilityLast Status
MRMLS****2008-***$210,000VisibleActive
CLAW*****2008-***$210,000VisibleActive
MRMLS*****2008-***$296,900Not-visibleActive
CLAW*****2008-**$249,000Not-visibleActive
CLAW******2008-**$249,000Not-visibleActive
SOCALMLS*******2008-**$210,000VisibleActive

 

Community Property Types

Type# in Block# in Tract# in Zipcode
Apartments38 (14%) 42 (3%) 1040 (7%)
Condominiums24 (9%) 36 (2%) 818 (6%)
Single Family Residences100 (36%) 1257 (82%) 9086 (63%)
Duplexes53 (19%) 77 (5%) 1002 (7%)
Triplexes25 (9%) 33 (2%) 706 (5%)
Fourplexes15 (5%) 19 (1%) 426 (3%)
Miscellaneous Multifamily(0%) (0%) (0%)
Other22 (8%) 59 (4%) 1275 (9%)

Property Types

Type# in Block# in Tract# in Zipcode
Apartments38 (14%) 42 (3%) 1040 (7%)
Condominiums24 (9%) 36 (2%) 818 (6%)
Single Family Residences100 (36%) 1257 (82%) 9086 (63%)
Duplexes53 (19%) 77 (5%) 1002 (7%)
Triplexes25 (9%) 33 (2%) 706 (5%)
Fourplexes15 (5%) 19 (1%) 426 (3%)
Miscellaneous Multifamily(0%) (0%) (0%)
Other22 (8%) 59 (4%) 1275 (9%)

Neighborhood Occupancy

Occupancy# in Block# in Tract# in Zipcode
Home-owner154(56%)1177(77%)10228(71%)
Other Occupied123(44%)349(23%)4124(29%)

Vacancy
當地空房率

TypeAddresses in Tract# Vacant in TractAddresses in Zipcode# Vacant in Zipcode
Residential215228(1%)40653373(1%)
Commercial16114(9%)4415255(6%)
SFR Sale and Price
Oct - Dec 2006Jan - Mar 2007Apr - Jun 2007Jul - Sep 2007Oct - Dec 2007Jan - Mar 2008Apr - Jun 2008Jul - Sep 2008
Total Sold7456533325305127
Median Price Per Sq. Foot$434$455$509$417$447$381$336$344
2 Bedroom
Total Sold161610125669
Median Price$472,000$445,000$479,000$396,000------$295,000
3 Bedroom
Total Sold5129331518203514
Median Price$565,000$660,000$619,000$616,250$485,000$495,000$500,000$365,000
4 Bedroom
Total Sold58832484
Median Price--$674,500$610,000------$477,000--
 
Condo Sale and Price
Oct - Dec 2006Jan - Mar 2007Apr - Jun 2007Jul - Sep 2007Oct - Dec 2007Jan - Mar 2008Apr - Jun 2008Jul - Sep 2008
Total Sold1391043336
Median Price Per Sq. Foot$259$301$259----------
3 Bedroom
Total Sold118622236
Median Price$445,000$465,000------------
 
 
City safety score for ******* is 6.5 out of 10.
Violent Crime Statistics 犯罪及居家安全度
pop. 
CategoryYearly StatisticsPer Person vs. County Average
Homicide9same
Rape2725% higher
Robbery15433% lower
Aggravated Assault24540% lower
Crime Index
(Violent Crime Overall)
1233% lower
The Crime Index for ***** is 12. That's about 30% lower than the LA County average. It measures violent crime reported, so lower is better.
 
學區好壞程度
Elementary School District
CategoryAPI Score
Elementary Schools717
Junior High/Middle Schools667
High Schools836
Overall703
Local schools' overall California Academic Performance Index is 666, some distance from the statewide target of 800.


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曾先生你好,我也居住在南加聖蓋搏華人區,據我了解,本區3房Condo租金行情很少超過3000,即使3-4房獨立屋,月租金多半在2500左右,是否能告知此案例所在區域呢?

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2009/02/04 11:37 【不平則鳴】 人屋有緣﹐要惜福﹔現金搶銀行﹐不犯法
2009/02/04 11:05 【曾太公落美洲】 人屋有緣﹐要惜福﹔現金搶銀行﹐不犯法
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Dear Monte,

Did you receive this following review email?  At least, you have to put "******" as the buyer and set the deadline "February 3, 2009 5:00 pm" in the offer, am I right?

I can correct it, but I am sorry that I don't have a computer program able to do that.

Hope you understand, now.

ET

--------- Forwarded Message ----------

Dear Monte,

Job well done. 

Once decision is made, I do things as quickly as possible and get the job done.  Maybe I am too rush for you to process the deal; I will extend the closing date to the end of Februray 2009, if you and the seller need.

Here are some minor concerns on the contract, for your review or correction:

#1 C. Close of escrow shall be on or before February 26, 2009.

#2 A. initial deposit .... made payable to *********.

#4 A (1) Seller shall pay for an inspection and report for wood destroying by his choice inspector. Please Check accordingly.

#4 C (2) Seller shall pay the government compliance and re-trofit. Please check accordingly.

#4 E (2) please check city transfer tax to be paid by the Seller.

#8 B (3) If there are some appliances left in the property, please list them here.

#8 C Please put "Not Any" here even there is no appliance.

#31. Expiration of offer: Please put "February 3, 2009 5:00 pm" in the purchase offer as the deadline for Seller to accept the offer.

Any question, please let me know.

ET

-- Monte wrote:

Dear Ed,
 
Here is the C.A.R Purchase contract I didn't put a name on it ? I will have to do so before I send it to the bank . Please send Prof of funds and a copy of the Deposit check back with the Contract you can email it or fax to *** ***-10** . If *** is going on the contract I can meet her in my office in Covina or even at the property and she can sign there .
 
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Dear Monte:

This is not the first time I am buying a distressed property.  In the past 15 years, I've been dealing with so many banks.  Every bank has his own way to do business.  As I said, I will follow your instructions to complete the deal since you know the banker better than me. 

Tell you the truth, I have been watched the market closely since I left California and have never taken any urgent or serious action to buy.  Because I believe the Californian market is going to fall rapidly and dramatically.   Still no sign to see the light at the end of tunnel at this moment.  Even in some area, the housing price has dived more than 70% off and goes back to 1991 price level.  One property in your listing neighborhood just came out last week listing for $199K, the last one on MLS in the same neighborhood.  It is a short sale, I have no patience to go thru it.

Well, you may or may not agree with me that the housing price will go back to pre-bubble level, i.e. 2000.  I checked the subject property sale history.  Yes, the condo was sold for $386K in 2004 and the bank took it back for $429K.  But that is unsustainable and speculated price per the area income. 

The subject property was sold for $179K in 2000.  I am a reasonable man who doesn't mind to pay a little bit more and make anybody happy.  That's why I offer $200K all cash. I am definitely not going to pay more than that for any condo in the city, at this time.   I can offer the same price to the next listing: ***,**** street, which has the similar listing with same sq ft and listed way lower than yours.  There is no action too, for 3 months.  But I don't want to make multiple offers that means someone is going to waste time. 

Well, I am very honest to you.  I don't have to buy if I don't have the need to let my girlfriend re-enjoy a sweet home (I sold out all our SoCal real estate holdings in 2004 and she has been stayed with her parents since) .  According to the news report and professional writings last week, the bankers have a lot of REO inventory, which is at least twice larger than those listed in MLS, they are planning to put them on the market in 6 months.  I don't mind your bank insists on its price, the worst for me is just walk away.  Who says we have to do business together in order to be friends?

So, if you don't think we can accomplish something, let me know.  We are still friends if we don't do it this time.   If you believe I am reasonable, I will give your phone number to my wife/ girlfriend and let you work together as a team to do a mission (not impossible though).

Once decision is made, I do things as quickly as possible and get the job done.  Maybe I am too rush for you to process the deal; I will extend the closing date to the end of Februray 2009.

Two pennies for your thoughts. 

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Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I am about to take final exam in school and will need a bit more time to organize my thoughts on your answer.

I am a little bit interested in the condo you just posted. You think it's likely to be bought with $100k? I am very likely to move to Cali next summer or fall to look for a job. I expect the real estate market to stay low for another 2 or 3 years, but it doesn't mean bargains would still come by.
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If you are lucky enough, it could be yours for less than $100K.  That's better than 15 years ago (please go back to check its sale history I just added.)

I used to post some good deals in this blog/ website.  But, some people love to accuse me of "getting a buyer/client."  My purpose is just to use "case study" to explain the trend in California.  I am retired to make fun live for myself.  In deed, no intention to attract any client unless the situation is in need.  Mind you that I am a lazy guy who doesn't like to work for others.

But don't be in a hurry, a lot of good deals are on the way.  It is so funny to see the move of real estate like the wave of stock market.

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