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2008/10/18 11:08  
You are welcome!

I have been silently reading your blog for years, and I am happy to contribute even a little bit.

Like you said, as long as "Joe Plumber" reflects the situation many average Americans are in, whether this is a ploy or not is irrelevant.

But, as you can see from the CNN article, it is difficult to tell who would fit into Joe Plumber's shoes due to the complexity of federal/state tax laws.

On a side note, I feel McCain was out of touch with reality when he picked $250,000 as the number. Average American households make way less than that.

On several big issues, McCain almost hit the bull's eye, but all fell short.
曾太公(et13808) 於 2008/10/18 12:14 回覆: 

I am totoally with you.

Per statistics, only about 10% (note: correctly 17.8%) of American household make more than $100,000.  (NOTE: top 10% earn $118K.)  That's my impression.  I will go check it out for you.  Therefore, McCain is out of touch of the people.  I don't blame him since he divorced his ill wife and married Cindy, the rich girl of rich family and has no idea of how an average Joe lives.

Cindy McCain reports $4.2 million in 2007 income

American society is notorious in making things so complex that no simple norm or value exists.  (NOTE: you may call it "fine print" to erase or take back what they promised.  If you still don't see it, just look at what happen in the Wall Street the past 15 days.  Ask youself if there is a good order of market for you to make "buy" or "sell"?  Where is the certainty of normal rules you can have to invest prudently, let alone fairness?  No wonder you see a huge swing.  Who created this financial chaos or turnoil?The system is just as a recent movie ads TV spot said: "There is only one rule for the game, that is, there is no rule."  Got the idea?

A civilization is based on "trust" and "confidence" that make it so different from a barbarian one.  But, look around, where is the trust or confidence?   Do we have a simple morality to guide our behaviors?  Sorry, I have to say all the lawyers would lose their jobs if we do.   Look at Japan, there is no one lawyer for a town with 50,000 population.  (you can check internet by "Japanese lawyer")  And look at American society, how many attorneys we have to support?  Tell you that Ten Thousand Times per capita.

Well, I believe in nature and "simple is beauty" that is just the opposite to the American system, no matter what it is, say, political, economic, court or financial.

Bailout plan is basically a tool to serve the rich.  It almost does nothing to the poor or even working class (NOTE: both two parties' candidates are talking about "middle class," but it is NOT the half bottom wroking class) .  If you don't believe me, go check this link: Corporate governance takes back seat in bailouts

Why it seems most people take it for granted "two or more" low paid jobs for a person; and ignore the real voice or forget the misery of the bottome 50% American household living under poverty?  Simple as Michael Zweig said, they don't have much political muscle organized as those lobbyists in DC. 

誠乃咱中國人說的偷天換日﹑上有政策下有對策正確『互動論』說法﹐應該是你有意﹐我有辦法﹔或更正確的說﹐你有點子﹐我有痞子﹐苦的是一般百姓也。

ps. I found the correct data: only top 10% of all U.S. households make more than $118,000 a year:

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2008/10/17 15:41   
"Plumber Joe" is a real person. See
http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/15/smallbusiness/small_biz_taxes_factcheck.smb/index.htm
曾太公(et13808) 於 2008/10/17 22:49 回覆: 

Thank you.

Immediately after the debate was over, I wrote my article of what I felt.  I really have no idea at the time.

I know it now.   His real first name is not Joe, even his 2nd first name is Joseph.  3 days ago, McCain's people contacted him for some arrangements, they should know that his real first name and his plumber license, at least; or he owed property tax of $1180 or his income less than $250,000.  

Some Obama supporters called it a ploy, at least a question of Joe's credibitly.   I don't believe it is a conspiracy.   But, I believe, the major reason for Mr. McCain call him "Joe" and use him as an example is to simply have an easy implication he is an ordinary Mr. Joe on the Main street.

Thank you again, my friend.


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