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託濟佛爺保佑﹐這是馬坎表現得最好的一次辯論﹐把雙方差異勾劃區分得很清楚﹐逼得對手相當被動應戰(如提到一般人JOE)。【當然雞鴨能看出嗎﹖太公懷疑呦。

整場辯論﹐可以明顯的看出馬坎與奧婆馬﹐在政治哲學上﹐有絕大不同﹔簡單的說﹐馬坎代表著自由主義私人資本主義的立場﹐有著務實經驗﹔奧婆馬則是社會主義政府干涉的角色﹐偏向抽象的意識形態。

換個台灣人熟悉的人物作比諭﹐馬坎是宋楚瑜﹐奧婆馬是阿扁。這個說法﹐只是說雙方目前的心態取向﹐無意說他們的政治實驗﹐結果會如宋﹑扁二人。

舉二例說﹐在自由貿易方面﹐奧婆馬把勞工條件及人權﹐列入談判中(姑不論他兩度提到中共不入此流)﹐是有相當大的理想主義﹔最讓太公印象深刻的﹐是馬坎最後一句話(在雙方作詰辯前)﹐真的是畫龍點睛﹐成為壓軸良言﹐說明『理想與現實』有差距﹕(如奧婆馬同意的)﹐華府教育的Voucher計劃有成效﹐只是『(錢財資源)不夠(讓其成功)』。

整場辯論中﹐馬坎至少用過四次『給人民金錢』(give money to the people)﹐很能喊出其施政的精神﹔其中有兩次﹐他說給人民五千美元買健保。當然﹐他說的是五千美元的免稅信用(tax credit)﹐並非冷冷的現金﹐讓人不會崩然心動﹐誠有偏失﹐力道不足也。

如果他能進而唱出﹐將救金融案七千億直接交給人民﹐每戶馬上有二萬現金﹐那就如其最後一語『(錢財資源)不夠』﹐能無憾矣﹐未來三週﹐會很熱鬧﹐有好戲看(當然馬坎是操控主議題的馬首﹐奧婆馬拿香跟拜)喔﹗


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謝謝補充。

的確﹐魚目是可以混珠﹔馬坎批奧婆馬『如果要反布希﹐應該在二零零四年競選』﹐是強力一擊﹐他提出“Joe the plumber”﹐更是可圈可點﹐也將成為著名歷史名詞。【當然﹐我不知是否真有此一人﹔老美稱一般市井為“an average Joe”﹐至少是暗諭泛泛小民。】

昨晚﹐在我寫完主欄文後﹐才看辯論後名嘴臨場評述。雖多數政評家﹐依然是『立場決定觀點』﹐但似乎無人否認﹐馬坎表現比前兩次好太多。其中﹐有一位年輕的CNBC漂亮女記者Maria Bartiromo﹐評論中肯﹐均發出太公昨夜急件﹐所未能細訴之處﹐實在後生可畏﹐政治及辯論學功力非凡。

當被問到美國赤字大增﹐如何改善﹖明白具体的說出削減政府支出兩項問題時﹐兩位侯選人好像都沒有準備﹐支支吾吾﹐舌頭打結。難怪紐約時報記者布魯克評說﹐二人均沒有領袖風格。【他一向支持奧婆馬﹐稍後即為奧婆馬平易﹑冷靜作風辯解﹐指出選奧婆馬﹐就沒有鬧劇“Vote for Obama, No Drama”﹔當然﹐他無一詞為馬坎解釋﹐反而取笑馬坎

但對這兩項問題﹐事實的確如此﹐兩人表現讓人失望﹔任何有涉及政經的一般人﹐都會比兩人回答的中肯切題。很簡單﹐諴如Maria Bartiromo在指明二者有此缺失時﹐也明言﹐可以用長期短期作法“short fix, long fix”﹐加以說明修理方案﹐會一語中地﹐回答得漂亮。

當然﹐她也沒明說其詳﹔如太公了解無誤﹐她就是說短期作法﹐可能增加支出﹐長期卻可達成減少赤字目標﹐聽來好像很矛盾﹐她真是有智慧。如果馬坎能在奧婆馬胡言後﹐馬上大話前瞻拍胸脯﹐擔保未來四年任內搞好經濟﹐他會吸引人民傾聽(奧婆馬隨著馬坎的『八年』﹐也隨便說要十年方可)。接著說明在個体經濟觀﹐短期增加支出﹐是難以服人之策﹐但就總体經濟﹐確係如此正當﹔如果馬坎能再引用老美常說的俗語﹕“Before it gets better, it will get worse”﹐就會很有說服力。

唉﹗事尚不遲﹐只是誠如Maria Bartiromo所言﹐馬坎此次辯論﹐仍然無法達成『與民掛鉤』(connected)的目標。【註﹕讓B女士瞧瞧太公的“AIP”﹐她一定會有大悟﹐擊掌叫好焉。太公沒胡說﹐最近三四天﹐方見老美媒体﹐隨著破筍轉向﹐也開始注意到當前美國經濟真正的病因﹔現在他們方才開始有悟﹖真是慢半拍喔﹗半年前﹐太公已經告訴太婆﹐病因何所在。在此﹐給國人一個引子﹕任何受過國民黨三民主義教育者﹐應該知道共產主義最大的經濟失敗敗因﹐在於重視供給面﹐忽視需求面﹔換言之﹐華爾街沒讀三民主義﹐過去兩年來的策略﹐寵『』(共﹖)非『』。伊娘列﹗不能怪他們老美﹐但是台灣人不懂﹐那沒有藉口託詞﹔懂了嗎﹖未來報導﹐會逐日加強﹐重視看待需求面﹐不信乎﹖咱們走著瞧瞧太公臭屁。】

簡易的口號(要太公錦囊乎﹖很簡單口號﹐只有五字訣“CFTB”﹐不成敬意)是馬坎未來二週半﹐在眾叛親離時(太公有據﹐但不願作此類貼文)要『起死回生』的唯一寄望。但﹐馬坎有嗎﹖



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Yes, MaCain did a good job; however, why he didn't get it right from the biginning.

The best statement in this debate is: "If you want to run against Bush, you should have run four years ago!"

Sure enough, Obamakeep labeling McCain to Bush. This is dirty and empty! He kept saying this is 21 first century - his change is empty and can not be excuted; however, it is just like the "Love Taiwan" and "Pin economic".

Unfortunately, McCain wasn't able to knock out Obama like Kennedy or Reagon did. Obama kept blah blah bah; however, his grabbing the stage and kept his mouth running works with people with less intelliggance.

McCaine nailed Obama twice: on ACORN and John Lewis.

Obama shagged both by lying and blah blah blah; however, anybody look at the fact knows that McCain got him:

ACORN is registering a football team in every state: this is election fraud! That's howObama defeated Clinton: she got more vote; however, he bought more super deligate to win! Obama said that he has notmuch to do with ACORD; however, right after debate and before debate, many people pointed out that Obama ave ACORN money: note - he gave, not receive! Those people who are using Santa Clause and Mickey Mouse as voter got paid by Obama. Just like USA is saying: Al Kaida is paying for the insurgants in Iraq to go against America!

As for John Lewis - he is such a loser who is black and is a big joke in black. he is what I remember: John supported Hillery. He even went on media accused Obama's campain using phone system to harras his voter/supporter. When Obama bought enough influance, he jumped from Clinton to Obama. What a smart ass! Now he waged his sword against McCaine and was cought by the media - apparently some dirty tricks everybody dislike.

McCaine had Obama good: the anchor asked "what are the negative things that has been running around and what do YOU say" McCain is a gentleman - he stopped the verterans against Kerry last election - I admire him for that. He just took Lewis out as example and also said: I fix every bit dirty trick first moment on every account both my and my opponest's accusation. Obama did NOTHING! So Obama said: we issued statement, blah blah blah!

Heck! This differance will not affect the election. People already made up their mind. The next three and half weeks is just going to be worse!

If American can not have the intelligance to pick a gentleman over a lyer and his blank check. it is American deserve their foolishness! Unfortunately, American did it in 2000 and 2004. I see there is not differance this round!

Sorry I had to run. Thank ET for the analysis: too late and not enough to save USA and the world - luckily the worl knows how to distance itself from the USA.

Oh: Thank you very much for the nice analysis. UDN webAdmin can only recommand those who copies from the US media - she needs constant pieces of article to fill up her front page - rather garbage than nothing. Thank you for giving out those real pearl - it take time and effortand occassion to produce pearl. She can use those glass marble to fill up her media, sometime, they even use woman breast and naked picture. that's marketing - what can a media do when their money come from how many people read their product - pronography might not be moral; but sure bring in money, right?






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2008/10/17 00:37 【曾太公落美洲】 My Second Letter to Senator McCain: CFPTB Is Your Savoir