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大唐亡於外戚﹐大明滅於宦官﹔如美國會亡﹐當然亡在律師
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以前﹐我看您寫一些『美國居』觀感﹐知道您有深入了解美國﹐是伊藤博文﹐非泛泛來美鍍金的博士﹐根本不知美國運作之人。

受中華民國一流師長培訓﹐通政治公法﹐太公在美下層社會生活二十年﹐我的觀察﹐是很實際而平民化的﹐更有公法學者的法理感傷﹔老美優點﹐正逐漸消失﹐以中國今日人民窮愚﹐要走美式民主﹐誠死路一條也。

現在﹐太公上貼我所昨日寫的銀拍屋買賣契約﹐一件如此簡單的房屋交易﹐可以短短數行辦妥的事﹐竟然要用上兩份不同律師寫的表格﹐總共二十八頁。弄得如此重複而繁雜﹐實在感觸良深﹐而長嘆曰﹕

大唐亡於外戚﹐大明滅於宦官﹔如大美會亡﹐當然亡在小鼻小眼的律師。

01-09-07

 

My fellow agents,

Today I would like to show our fellow agents how we, as a professional specialist, have tried to complicate a simple real estate transaction under the influence of legal profession.

Our ancestors did their real estate transaction in a simple and costless way.  Twenty years ago, we used a two page California state board form to write up a normal offer (as opposed to a distressed sale).  The form has grown to 4 pages, 6 pages, and now it has 8 pages.  Are we smart or dumb enough to let attorneys to limit our creativity?  You will be the judge.

In 2001, I bought a property without an agent involved.  It took five minutes for the seller and me to write up a purchase agreement for the $210,000 property.  I did it in a piece of blank paper on the counter of my flower shop.  The purchase gave me a profit of $300,000 in two years plus one day.  I will talk about it later. 

Now I would like to ask you guys what you feel about the practice of our profession:

1. How many pages of a purchase contract do we need to buy a single residence, a very simple transaction (not a complicated billions commercial complex)?

2. How many pages of the purchase offer form do we really need to fill in to present an All Cash offer to buy a REO property in its "present" condition under "sold as is, where it is" terms? 

Have any idea? 

I believe you couldn't believe it.  We need at least 28 pages to do that?  I will show you what I have been dealt with a seasoned C-21 agent today in buying a REO property owned by Countrywide.  I almost gave up at this moment since I don't have to buy and a banker has to sell.  Why you treat a customer who is wiling to help like that, Countrywide or a banker?

Here are our email exchanges:

1. My email to listing agent:

 

From:"Ed T***"t***@yahoo.com>   
Subject:RE: ****** Sy****  St. ******, Ca 91***
To:B*****@aol.com

Dear B****:  

Thank you for sending me 28 page offer form. For a regular REO transaction of a property with less than $300,000.00, are you sure that we have to fill in those 28 pages? Don't you think that is very absurd for a small deal in which an ALL CASH offer with "Sold As is, where is" is involved?  

I believe we can do it in an offer contract with just one page. It shall be very simple, why we have to use two forms: CA purchase contract and Countrywide form and make it so complicated by double work in repeating statements of everything, including purchase price and contingency (there is no contingency in my straight offer). 

We can write up an offer in a few sentences in just one page as follows:

This is a purchase offer made by Buyer ET to purchase from Seller Countrywide Financial the subject property located at 3***** S**** St., *****, CA 91*** (Los Angeles Assessor Parcel # ****-0*8-0*4):  

1. Purchase price shall be US$ -------------and this is an All Cash offer with no financial contingency.  

2. This sale is a "Sold As Is, Where Is" transaction and Buyer knows that Seller is exempted from disclosures by the laws. No inspection contingency exists as to all the physical conditions of the property. Buyer agrees to do his own due diligence on physical condition of the property at Buyer's expenses.  

3. Seller shall buy a marketable title insurance for Buyer. Buyer may terminate the purchase contract and escrow in 3 days after his receipt of the title report. In the event, this contract shall be deemed void and null.  

4. Escrow shall be open by Buyer's deposit of $15,000 in 2 days after the offer is accepted and closed by an escrow company in San Gabriel valley area within 21 days after the offer is accepted. Escrow fees shall be equally shared by both parties. All other fee or expenses, including county or condo transfer fee, charged by all public and private authorities shall be paid by Seller. If any dispute of fee arises, Buyer and Seller agree, in advance, to authorize the escrow officer settle it by most popular local normal custom.  

5. Commission: No agent involved in the transaction, except C-21 **** who acts as an agent of both parties and shall be paid by Seller a commission as set in its listing agreement.  

6. Seller's liability is limited to $5,000 if the escrow is unable to close. Buyer shall have a full refund of his deposit if the escrow is not closed and Buyer has no faulty.  

7. The transfer of title and the occupancy of the property shall be occurred at the same time by the surrender of keys and garage openers. The property shall be delivered in the present "clean and vacant" condition as it is when the offer is made and accepted.      

To avoid spend a lot of time for me to write and scan all 28 pages and email them to you, I have condensed them in a very brief contract, by the sequence of 33 clauses of California form and attached it here. If you approve it, I will use the condensed form and send you a written offer shortly.  

Ed

 

2. Response from the agent:

From B*******@aol.com Wed Jan 9 17:16:38 2008
X-Apparently-To:e******@yahoo.com via 206.190.49.76; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:16:42 -0800
X-Originating-IP:[64.12.137.6]
Return-Path:<b*******@aol.com>

Hello Ed,  

Thank  you for your suggestion to simplified the offer.    

However, all 28 pages are required by Countrywide (seller) and CAR.  

Please let me know the price that you wish to offer on this property.    

Thank you,  

B**** K****

Century 21 **** Realty

Direct : ***-***-****

 

In the past three years, I have seen some real estate websites who make things very simple.  Those operators have taken the advantage of Internet and have made a hefty profit, roughly millions dollars every month at least.  They don't have the fiduciary duty legally put upon agents since they are operating as a marketing company, not a licensed RE brokerage.  They are taking our business away by making doing business with them a simple joy.  I have done and enjoyed doing business with them many times with simplicity.

How can we basically make a potential buyer so uneasy and stick to our traditional ways to compete with those RE marketing or so-called "lead" websites in their rising markets and shrink our territory?

Let me know what your response are?  Thanks

 

 *******  *****  ******
one of the responses:

YOU MY FRIEND HAVE TO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS, SIGN THE DOCS AND GO ON, FOR AS LONG AS IT TOOK YOU TO WRITE YOUR RANT YOU COULD OF SCANNED AND EMAILED YOUR OFFER


ET's response:

Do you know how much time I have to scan those pages after I print and write all the forms?  Both forms really repeat almost everything and cost us double work, let alone waste of papers.

Well, I know just follow the rule if you are under the roof of attorneys.  Sorry, I am not a follower.  Also, I believe customer is the number 1 in any sector of economy, particularly in a service industry in that we are.  Other marketing companies are making buying a REO a joy, why we make it a hassle simply we have to support their livings of so many attorneys we have? 

Tell you a truth.  We have HUNDREDS TIMES, if not Thousands, more attorneys than Japanese in terms of per capita.  That's dramatically increase our business costs compared to a Japanese firm.

Why our great country has to waste so much money, energy and resources to make a simple job so complicated?  Do we want to have better productivity to be the number 1, or we have to say "Japan is the number 1" as we did in 1980'?

There is a book "WAYMISH" (Why Are You Making It So Hard for me to give you my money?) written by Ray Considine & Ted Cohn.  I really hope my fellow agents read it to improve our skill doing business.

 



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沒有那個當朝昏君權臣﹐會自認安苟且﹐會自承殘害忠良﹐否則﹐就沒有亡國這回事。

您說﹕『小草雖然沒有大影響力﹐還是有資格享受風與和陽光』﹐甚是﹗只是此言﹐要看環境大局而定喔﹗

居文明巧飾﹐廟堂大城﹐小草只能定期被砍﹐受人賤踏與修理﹔人微勢單﹐少見路人有不平﹐自古已然。不信﹖請您看老美左鄰右舍﹐請人割草﹐就知事理矣。

唉﹗小草﹐不愛上朝﹐只說真話﹐不拍馬屁﹐不和氣結朋黨﹐難容於於勢力之既得﹐人人就算不嫌棄﹐也明哲保距離。欲得不受雞鴨定期抹黑﹐難難難﹐難矣。

太公体認出﹕荒草﹐只宜生長在美國的國家公園﹐才能有和風﹐安享陽光去。就此西出『陽關』外﹐向吾兄告別『敗敗』去﹗

註﹕原則上﹐太公現已封閉自己網誌。是否效費希特『告全德人民書』﹐向全体市民﹐寫下仙鶴最後的話語﹐仍在斟酌中﹐原則上﹐是沒心寫啦﹗

 



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就在於知過能改!

既然以見問題徵節, 解答自然不難了.

小草雖然沒有大影響力,

還是有資格享受風與和陽光!




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差或不差﹐正或不正﹐真言或假語﹖就隨便啦﹗

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太公此言差矣!

美國律師氾濫成災, 造成法律文件, 浪費資源, 彷彿是希臘古廟的繩結.

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您自有見地﹐但似只見鴻毛﹐不見輿薪乎﹗

老美以例外為原則﹐本末倒置﹐散處各處。

對錯正理﹐無法適從﹐改革實『理』易﹐現況卻『實』難﹐非智者臥龍能舉。台美法制情勢差不多﹐均以例外為常規﹐『化易而就難』焉。

國家是眾人共有﹐雖欲回饋師長﹐無償奉上所學﹐非太公能獨決﹐就放心﹐安享自然。

時局如斯﹐小草順風﹐溺水三千﹐獨取一瓢﹐不多言啦﹗



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紙張的發明, 促進了文化的發展.

日本在臺灣, 就表現不錯的功力. 無論是建築, 或是防地震的規定等等.

不過, 美國這種口水多過茶的浪費, 就有點雞毛當令箭, 公文壓死人!




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